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Les "soucoupes nazies"

Ce qui suit est, essentiellement, l'article de Kevin McClure publi sous letitre Phoney Warfare dans Fortean Studies 7, publi par la suite sur le site

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L'hypothse de soucoupes nazies est apparue au dbut des annes 1950s.

La relation entre l'histoire du paranormal et l'histoire "consensuelle", surlaquelle la plupart d'entre nous, informs par les historiens et les principauxmedia, s'accordent comme tant la ralit, est gnralement assez loigne.Le Fortanisme peut tre dcrit comme reposant quelque part entre ces deux

histoires, de par le fait qu'il consigne les rcits supposs factuels, maispossiblement anormaux, enregistrs par les media de l'histoire"consensuelle", tout en rejettant souvent les explications "consensuelles"donnes pour rduire l'tranget de ces vnements, ainsi que la raison et leraisonnement adopts pour le faire. Fort eut la chance de vivre et travailleravant qu'apparaissent les pires excs de l'ufologie et du New Age. Samthode d'approche de faits existants, dj enregistrs, avec un espritouvert et large aurait souvent t t en butte au fin manque de faits et laprdominance d'lments imaginaires, dans ces 2 disciplines. Il taitgnralement capable - et souhaitait - croire les rapports que dvoilaient ses

recherches. Suivre cette approche aujourd'hui appelerait le ridicule.

Les enqutes que j'ai mis en place durant les 20 tranges derniresannes ont gnralement trouv leurs origines dans mon inconfort parrapport aux interprtations sauvages faites de rapports qui n'avaient jamaist correctement tudis. Les "lumires d'Egryn" de l'vangliste Mary Joneset d'autres furent being turned into evidence for the 'earthlights' lobby. Lesvisions de Fatima et la "Danse du Soleil" devinrent un "vnement ufologiqueclassique", tendant artificiellement l'histoire des ovnis 30 ans avant 1947.Les lgendes de "Angels of Mons", l'oppos, furent remise en question avec

trop de simplicit. L'explication sceptique habituelle tait trop banale, et jepense errone.

De la mme manire, la plupart de mes recherches s'appliqurent desdomaines o, bien que le phnomne en question ait t visible - audible,tangible mme - pour certains individus, sa visibilit avait t slective. Il yavait toujours une place pour un dbat sur la raison pour laquelle certainspersonnes percevaient subjectivement des observations, des vnements,des informations extraordinaires, alors que d'autres non. La situationprsente, o de grands disques mtalliques fulgureraient dans le ciel del'Europe avant l't 1945, est compltement diffrente. Soit ils taient l soit


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ils n'y taient pas.

Ce qui me fit remettre en question l'ide accepte des "OVNIs nazis" futcette horrible priode de l'histoire fortenne, il y a 2 ou 3 annes de cela, odes magazines en kiosques de qualit relative et aux intentions douteusesfleurirent dans tout le Royaume-Uni. En plus de Fortean Times lui-mme etUFO Magazine, soudain Alien Encounters, Sightings, UFO Reality et toutessortes d'autres titres courte dure de vie, se battaient pour remplir leurs

pages de choses appetissantes et vendeuses. Des rdacteurs putridescommencrent soumettre des articles half-heartedly strung together from ahandful of second-hand sources, et quelques heures passes sur l'Internet.Les diteurs acceptrent ces articles avec les bras ouverts et peu d'argent, etles vieux mythes furent ravivs et de nouveaux mythes naquirent. Parmi euxtaient les mythes bass sur la cration et le vol d'OVNIs nazis.

Plus je regardais les histoires mergentes de ralisations techniquesnazies effarantes, et les comparais avec la dfaite ignominieuse et ruiseusede l'Allemagne, moins cette contradiction avait de sens. Ce n'est pas - et je

sais que je dois tre clair l-dessus - que je croie que l'Axe n'avait pas deplans, de designs, ni d'esprance de production de disques volants de haute-performance. L'Allemagne nazie tait efficace en planification, conception, et- peut-tre heureusement pour le reste du monde - passa beaucoup detemps en spculations et rves d'achvement et de pouvoir. Mais il semblequ'aucun disque de haute-performance n'ait quitt le sol, et si cetteproposition est vraie alors le mythe des OVNIs nazis, clbrant aujourd'hui undemi-sicle d'existence vivace, est le canular le plus soutenu, rpandu, etmulti-facettes jamais conu dans notre domaine. Un canular, asseztrangement, dans lequel quelques-uns des principaux participants se

connaissaient mutuellement, mais qui en avait attir des centaines pour jouerleur rle dans son dveloppement et de nombreux, nombreux autresindividus croire que tout ou partie de ces dclarations taient vridiques.Tentative as some of my findings of fact may be as yet, what is publishedhere is what I've established so far.

Ce n'est pas l'histoire avec un dbut, un milieu et une fin. Comme tous lesmeilleurs mythes elle commence quand quelqu'un se met, soit y penser,soit raconte publiquement pour la premire fois une histoire existante. Elleregarde vers le pass pour y trouver un soutien ses dclarations puis, le

temps passant, spiralled hors de contrle au fur et mesure que d'autreslments y sont ajouts. Mon intention in setting out this 'first investigation' ofthe Nazi UFO mythos is to make available, in one place, the principal sourcesfor all of the reports and claims that seem relevant and of which - of course -I'm aware. I'm sure there will be more. I make no pretence of having doneall this work myself, or of having any kind of monopoly on the subject. Ifothers want to use this piece as a basis for pursuing their own research, I'llbe more than pleased. If I've quoted or adopted anyone else's work withoutcrediting it, please accept my apologies.

Je commencerais par donner une vue d'ensemble substantielle de ce qui


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est probablement le seul rel mystre non rsolu de l'ensemble desspculations sur la technologie aronautique du temps de la guerre. This isthe first of five specific 'cores' of key material that I've concluded lie at theheart of the mythos. Having set those cores out first, I'll deal with many ofthe other contributors to the development of the mythos, both deliberate andunplanned. One brief explanation in advance - while I've almost certainlymade errors of my own in translation, and the names of people and places,I've generally refrained from correcting the spelling and grammar of quotedmaterial. Sometimes, style and presentation conveys almost as much ascontent !

Foo fighters - UnHerring rouge (etjaune, et bleu)

Le phnomne "foo fighter" semble avoir obtenu ce nom aprs qu'une BDamricaine du temps de la guerre ait prsent un personnage nommSmokey Stover, dont la phrase ftiche tait Where there's foo there's fire.Aucun doute que cela sembla drle l'poque, mais cela donne en cela unnom mmorable et appealing une varit trs disparate et peu documentde rapports de phnomnes ariens que Stover has found lasting fame. Sansce nom, des rapports aussi diffrents d'auraient probablement jamais trelis entre eux.

D'une certaine manire, les lments lis aux "foo fighter" ne nous aidentpas beaucoup. Il est assez clair que, quoi qui fut observ, les rcits sont

rares, quand ils existent, d'objets solides mtalliques. Nombre d'entre euxviennent en fait des cieux japonais ou des pays d'Extrme Orient.Nanmoins, des rapports de l'existence et du comportement des "foofighters" au-dessus de l'Europe pendant la guerre soutiennent les key strandsdu mythe des "ovnis nazis", and while this can't be the thorough examinationthat the subject deserves to receive one day, toute enqute doit dmarrerquelque part. I can claim particularly little credit for the research into foofighters which, effectively, sets the scene for my own research into the moreexotic world of the Nazi UFO, but I hope that by setting it out here, it willbecome more accessible, and will eventually be seen in its proper - very

distant - relationship to later claims of wartime flying disk development.

Deux chercheurs complets et crdibles ont enqut le phnomne deguerre des "foo fighter". L'un est le chercheur britannique et ufologiqueiconoclaste Andy Roberts, et l'autre est le diplm en folklore amricain JeffLindell. Tous deux ont, heureusement, publi des rsums de leurs travauxsur le net, et il serait juste de dire qu'ils ont abouti des conclusions pluttdiffrentes. Avant de nous plonger dans leur analyse plus prudente, etd'ignorer les lments douteux prsents dans des ditions aprs-guerre dulargement fictionnel Amazing Stories de Ray Palmer, il est tout d'abord


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interressant d'examiner l'article cl populaire et sur le sujet qui, comme le ditRoberts, forme la substance de presque tout ce qui a t crit sur le sujetdes foo-fighters. Il parat dans le American Legion Magazine de Dcembre1945, dont Renato Vesco - qui a travaill aux USA - tait familier, mais dontl'Allemand Rudolf Lusar n'tait apparemment pas.

L'article tait intitul Le mystre Foo Fighter, et fut crit par un certain JoChamberlin. Ce rcit est raviv de "citations" de la part de tmoins de

l'poque, making it that much more immediate and appealing. Il commenceavec un rcit de rapports provenant du Japon, apparemment aprs la dfaitede l'Allemagne :

Durant les derniers mois de la guerre les quipages de nombreux B-29sau-desus du Japon virent ce qu'ils dcrirent comme des "boules de feu" quiles suivaient, parfois montaient et s'asseyaient quasiment sur leurs queues,changeaient de couleur de l'orange au rouge et au vert et en arrire nouveau, et qui malgr cela ne se rapprochrent jamais pour attaquer, ous'craser comme dans une attaque suicide...

"Les boules de feu continuent tre un mystre - tout comme ellesl'taient lorsqu'elle furent observes pour la premire fois l'autre bout dumonde -- au-dessus de l'Allemagne de l'Est. C'est ainsi qu'elle commenrent.

A 22 h lors d'une soire de Novembre, la fin 1944, le lieutenant Ed.Schlueter dcolle dans son chasseur nocturne depuis Dijon (France), pour cequ'il pense tre une mission de routine pour le 415me Escadron deChasseurs de Nuit. Le lieutenant Schlueter est un pilote jeune, grand etcomptent de Oshkosh (Wisconsin), dont le travail risqu est de rechercher

dans le ciel de nuit les avions allemands et de les descendre. Il a fait celaplusieurs fois et a t dcor pour cela. En tant que l'un de nos meilleurschasseurs de nuit, il tait habitu grer toutes sortes d'urgences. Avec luien tant qu'observateur radar se trouvait le lieutenant Donald J. Meiers, et lelieutenant Fred Ringwald, officier de renseignement du 415me, qui vole entant qu'observateur.

Le trio began their search pattern, roaming the night skies on either sideof the Rhine River north of Strasbourg -- for centuries the abode of sirens,dwarfs, gnomes, and other supernatural characters that appealed strongly tothe dramatic sense of the late A. Hitler. However, at this stage of theEuropean war, the Rhine was no stage but a grim battleground, where theGermans were making their last great stand. The night was reasonably clear,with some clouds and a quarter moon. There was fair visibility.

In some respects, a night fighter plane operates like a champion boxerwhose eyesight isn't very good; he must rely on other senses to guide him tohis opponent. The U. S. Army has ground radar stations, which track allplanes across the sky, and tell the night fighter the whereabouts of anyplane. The night fighter flies there, closes in by means of his own radar untilusually he can see the enemy, and if the plane doesn't identify itself as


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friendly, he shoots it down. Or, gets shot down himself, for the Germansoperate their aircraft in much same way we did, and so did the Japanese.

Lt. Schlueter was flying low enough that he could detect the white steamof a blacked-out locomotive or the sinister bulk of a motor convoy, but hehad to avoid smokestacks, barrage balloons, enemy searchlights, and flakbatteries. He and Ringwald were on the alert, for there were mountainsnearby. The inside of the plane was dark, for good night vision. Lt. Ringwald

said, "I wonder what those lights are, over there in the hills.""Probably stars," said Schlueter, knowing from long experience that the sizeand character of lights are hard to estimate at night."No, I don't think so.""Are you sure it's no reflection from us?""Je suis catgorique."Then Ringwald remembered -- there weren't any hills over there. Yet the"lights" were still glowing -- eight or ten of them in a row -- orange balls offire moving through the air at a terrific speed. Then Schlueter saw them faroff his left wing. Were enemy fighters pursuing him? He immediately checked

by radio with Allied ground radar stations."Nobody up there but yourself." they reported. "Are you crazy?"And no enemy plane showed in Lt. Meiers' radar.

Lt. Schlueter didn't know what he was facing -- possibly some new andlethal German weapon -- but he turned into the lights, ready for action. Thelights disappeared -- then reappeared far off. Five minutes later they wentinto a flat glide and vanished.

The puzzled airmen continued on their mission, and destroyed seven

freight trains behind German lines. When they landed back at Dijon, theydecided to do what any other prudent soldier would do -- keep quiet for themoment. If you tried to explain everything strange that happened in a war,you'd do nothing else. Further, Schlueter and Meiers had nearly completedtheir required missions, and didn't want to chance being grounded by someskeptical flight surgeon for "combat fatigue." Maybe they had been "seeingthings."

But a few nights later, Lt. Henry Giblin, of Santa Rosa, California, pilot,and Lt. Walter Cleary, of Worcester, Massachusetts, radar-observer, were

flying at 1000 feet altitude when they saw a huge red light 1,000 feet abovethem, moving at 200 miles per hour. As the observation was made on anearly winter evening, the men decided that perhaps they had eatensomething at chow that didn't agree with them and did not rush to reporttheir experience.

Les 22-23 Dcembre 1944, another 415th night fighter squadron pilot andradar-observer were flying at 10,000 feet altitude near Hagenau. "At 0600hours we saw two lights climbing toward us from the ground. Upon reachingour altitude, they leveled off and stayed on my tail. The lights appeared to belarge orange glows. After staying with the plane for two minutes, they peeled


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off and turned away, flying under perfect control, and then went out."

The next night the same two men, flying at 10,000 feet, observed a singlered flame. Lt. David L. McFalls, of Cliffside, N. C., pilot, and Lt. Ned Baker ofHemat, California, radar-observer, also saw: "A glowing red object shootingstraight up, which suddenly changed to a view of an aircraft doing a wing-over, going into a dive and disappearing." This was the first and onlysuggestion of a controlled flying device.

By this time, the lights were reported by all members of the 415th whosaw them. Most men poked fun at the observers, until they saw forthemselves. Although confronted with a baffling situation, and one with lethalpotentialities, the 415th continued its remarkable combat record. When thewriter of this article visited and talked with them in Germany, he wasimpressed with the obvious fact that the 415th fliers were very normalairmen, whose primary interest was combat, and after that came pin-up girls,poker, doughnuts, and the derivatives of the grape.

The 415th had a splendid record. The whole outfit took the mysteriouslights or balls of fire with a sense of humor. Their reports were received insome higher quarters with smiles: "Sure, you must have seen something, andhave you been getting enough sleep?" One day at chow a 415th pilotsuggested that they give the lights a name. A reader of the comic strip"Smokey Stover" suggested that they be called "foo-fighters," since it wasfrequently and irrefutably stated in that strip that "Where there's foo, there'sfire." The name stuck.

What the 415th saw at night was borne out in part by day. West of

Neustadt, a P-47 pilot saw "a gold-colored ball, with a metallic finish, whichappeared to be moving slowly through the air. As the sun was low, it wasimpossible to tell whether the sun reflected off it, or the light came fromwithin." Another P-47 pilot reported "a phosphorescent golden sphere, 3 to 5feet in diameter, flying at 2000 feet."

Meanwhile, official reports of the "foo-fighters" had gone to groupheadquarters and were "noted." Now in the Army, when you "note" anythingit means that you neither agree nor disagree, nor do you intend to doanything about it. It covers everything. Various explanations were offered forthe phenomena -- none of them satisfactory, and most of them irritating tothe 415th. It was said that the foo-fighters might be a new kind of flare. Aflare, said the 415th, does not dive, peel off, or turn. Were they to frightenor confuse Allied pilots?

Well, if so, they were not succeeding -- and yet the lights continued toappear. Eighth Air Force bomber crews had reported seeing silver-coloredspheres resembling huge Christmas tree ornaments in the sky -- what aboutthem? Well, the silver spheres usually floated, and never followed a plane.They were presumably some idea the Germans tried in the unsuccessfuleffort to confuse our pilots or hinder our radar bombing devices.


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What about jet planes ? No, the Germans had jet planes all right, but theydidn't have an exhaust flame visible at any distance. Could they be flyingbombs of some sort, either with or without a pilot? Presumably not -- withbut one exception no one thought he observed a wing or fuselage. Weatherballoons? No, the 415th was well aware of their behavior. They ascendedalmost vertically, and eventually burst.

Could the lights or balls of fire be the red, blue, and orange colored flak

bursts that Eighth Air Force bomber crews had reported? It was a nice idea,said the 415th, but there was no correlation between the foo-fighters theyobserved and the flak they encountered. And night flak was usually directedby German radar, not visually. In short, no explanation stood up.

Le 31 Dcembre 1944, le journaliste de l'AP Bob Wilson est avec le415me et entend parler des foo-fighters. Il interroge l'homme jusqu' 4 hdu matin dans la meilleure tradition journalistique jusqu' ce qu'il ait eu tousles faits. Son histoire passa la censure, et apparut dans les journauxamricains le 1er Janvier 1945, juste temps pour meet the customary crop

of annual hangovers.

Some scientists in New York decided, apparently by remote control, thatwhat the airmen had seen in Germany was St. Elmo's light -- a well-knownelectrical phenomenon appearing like light or flame during stormy weather atthe tips of church steeples, ships' masts, and tall trees. Being in the nature ofan electrical discharge, St. Elmo's fire is reddish when positive, and blueishwhen negative. The 415th blew up. It was thoroughly acquainted with St.Elmo's fire. The men snorted, "Just let the sons come over and fly a missionwith us. We'll show em."

Through January, 1945, the 415th continued to see the "foo-fighters," andtheir conduct became increasingly mysterious. One aircrew observed lights,moving both singly and in pairs. On another occasion, three sets of lights, thistime red and white in color, followed a plane, and when the plane suddenlypulled up, the lights continued on in the same direction, as though caughtnapping, and then sheepishly pulled up to follow. The pilot checked withground radar -- he was alone in the sky. This was true in every instance foo-fighters were observed.

The first real clue came with the last appearance of the exasperating andpotentially deadly lights. They never kept 415th from fulfilling its missions, butthey certainly were unnerving. The last time the foo-fighters appeared, thepilot turned into them at the earliest possible moment -- and the lightsdisappeared. The pilot was sure that he felt prop wash, but when he checkedwith ground radar, there was no other airplane.

The pilot continued on his way, perturbed, even angry -- when he noticedlights far to the rear. The night was clear and the pilot was approaching ahuge cloud. Once in the cloud, he dropped down two thousand feet and madea 30 degree left turn. Just a few seconds later be emerged from the cloud --


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with his eye peeled to rear. Sure enough, coming out of the cloud in thesame relative position was the foo-fighter, as though to thumb its nose at thepilot, and then disappear. This was the last time the foo-fighters were seen inGermany, although it would have seemed fitting, if the lights had made onelast gesture, grouping themselves so as to spell "Guess What" in the sky, andvanishing forever.

But they didn't. The foo-fighters simply disappeared when Allied ground

forces captured the area East of the Rhine. This was known to be the locationof many German experimental stations. Since V-E day our Intelligenceofficers have put many such installations under guard. From them we hope toget valuable research information -- including the solution to the foo-fightermystery, but it has not appeared yet. It may be successfully hidden for yearsto come, possibly forever. The members of the 415th hope Army Intelligencewill find the answer. If it turns out that the Germans never had anythingairborne in the area, they say, "We'll be all set for Section Eight psychiatricdischarges."

Meanwhile, the foo-fighter mystery continues unsolved. The lights, or ballsof fire, appeared and disappeared on the other side of the world, over Japan-- and your guess as to what they were is just as good as mine, for nobodyreally knows [Jo Chamberlin, The Foo Fighter Mystery, American Legion Magazine,Dcembre 1945].

Had this article not been published, then we would probably have heardlittle more about this unusual range of events, in different times, in differentplaces, which has been gathered together under the foo-fighter name.Fortunately, others have gone on to gather more accurate, less dramatised

accounts, and to make informed judgments about the possible causesunderlying the reports.

Jeff Lindell

Le folkloriste amricain Jeff A. Lindell est un analyste de systmeslectroniques militaires de l'USAF la retraite. Il a men des interviewsdtailles d'aviateurs qui avaient vu des phnomnes lumineux durant la2me guerre mondiale, and tends towards a rationalist explanation of all suchreports, utilising the possible misinterpretation of different kinds of natural

events. Dans son article The Foo Fighter Mystery: Revised' in the context ofhistorical accounts identified as 'Jack o'Lantern et Will o' the Wisp, he sets outsome key 'foo fighter' reports from earlier sources :

"Let us proceed with the World War II version of this legend type. Audbut d'Octobre 1944, des pilotes du 422me Escadron de Chasseur de Nuit(Night Fighter Squadron ou NFS), bass prs de Florennes (Belgique)commencrent signaler des "boules de lumire" volant avec leurs chasseursau-dessus de l'Allemagne de l'Ouest. Au dbut de Novembre quelques piloteset oprateurs radar du 422me avaient signal des rencontres avec des


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chasseurs raction Me163 et Me262 lors de missions de nuit au-dessus duReich. Le 7 Novembre 1944 le Associated Press Corps Paris publia ceci :

Paris (AP) -- Les allemands utilisent des avions propulss par racteur etfuse et divers autres gadgets 'newfangled' contre les chasseurs nocturnesallis," a dit aujourd'hui le lieutenant-colonel B. Johnson, Natchitoches, La.,commandant d'un groupe P-61 Black Widow." Ces dernires nuits nous avonscompt entre 15 et 20 avions raction," dit Johnson. "Ils volent parfois en

formation de quatre, mais plus souvent seuls." [The Day, New London, Connecticut,p.1]

Dans une interview avec Philip Guba, Officier Adjoint au Renseignement du422 NFS, celui-ci dclare :

Au dbut nous avons pens qu'ils (les pilotes) voyaient deschoses, et ils continuaient dire que ces choses les prenaient enchasse autour d'eux. S'il furent en fait identifis... pas pendant quej'tais en service, ils n'identifirent pas de jet comme tel. Mais je

pense que c'tait la seule conclusion laquelle nouis puissionsaboutir... c'tait un jet. Ca ne pouvait pas tre un Will-o'-wisp ouquelque chose comme . Ce qu'ils signalaient avoir vu tait juste latuyre, vous voyez. Ils indiqurent que ces gars (les jets)semblaient jouer autour d'eux. Ils mentionnrent que ces gars (lesjets) ne leur avait jamais tir dessus et je ne peux me souvenir sil'observateur Radar les avait effectivement vus sur l'cran. C'taitplutt visuel en d'autres mots.

Dans le mme temps, le 415me N. F. S. bas Dijon (France)commena signaler les "boules de feu" qu'ils avaient affectueusementsurnommes "foo fighters." Le 27 Novembre le premier foo fighter futobserv au-dessus de l'Allemagne de l'Ouest par Ed Schleuter et Don Meierspilotant un Beaufighter, voici le rcit de Don :

"Un foo fighter me picked up 700 pieds et me pris en chasse20 miles down de la Valle du Rhin," dit Meiers. "I turned tostarboard and two balls of fire turned with me. We were going 260miles an hour and the balls were keeping right up with us. Onanother occasion when a foo fighter picked us up, I dived at 360miles an hour. It kept right off our wing tips for awhile and then

zoomed into the sky. When I first saw the things, I had the horriblethought that a German on the ground was ready to press a buttonand explode them. But they didn't explode or attack us. They justseem to follow us like the Will-o'-the-wisp [New York Times, 2 Janvier1945, pp. 1, 4].

Eh bien, pour compliquer encore plus les choses, le 416me N. F. S.stationn Pisa (Italie) commen aussi voir des "foo fighters" en Fvrier1945. Voici des extraits respectifs des donnes historiques et archives desoprations du 416me N.F.S :


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17 Fvrier 1945: "Our crews are beginning to report mysterious orange-red lights in the sky near La Spezia and also inland. These "foo fighters" havebeen pursued, but no one has been able to make contact. G.C.l. andintelligence profess to be mystified by these ghostly apparitions. Thehypothesis that the foo-fighters are a post-cognac manifestation has beendisproved. Even the teetotalers have observed the strange and mysteriousfoo-fighters which have also been observed in France and in Belgium [17Fvrier 1945, 416th historical data. U.S. Army].

17 February 1945: "At 21:30 saw reddish white light going off and on inspurts about 6 or 8 miles away, near La Spezia at 10,000 ft. going NE.chased it at 280 MPH for 11/2 minutes. It took erratic course and faded out.At 21:40 saw some type of light 10 miles South of La Spezia and it wentNorth and turned East of La Spezia at 9000'. Faded near La Spezia. Pilotcame within 5 miles of La Spezia, suspected Ack Ack trap. At 21:55,10 milessouth of La Spezia chased another and it went across La Spezia and pilotfollowed. Faded 10 or 15 miles North of La Spezia. Our aircraft at 300 MPHcouldn't catch it. No ack ack at La Spezia. At 22:50, 5 miles south of Pisa,

saw same light from distance of 10 miles. Chased it for 2 or 2 1/2 minutes. Ittook north course, disappeared over Mt. this light 10,000'. Light described asglow that alternates between weak and bright. No contacts on Al (radar).Apparently no jamming." [17 Feb.1945. Daily Operations Report, 416th NFS, 12th AF-SCU-01].

L'observation ci-dessus fut faite par George Shultz et Frankie Robinson.

Lindell prsente un cas convainquant pour accepter que, quelle que fut lacause des rapports, en raison de leur faible nombre et de leur localisation

gographique limite, les chasseurs raction Me163 et Me262 ait rarementpu en tre responsables. Il indique :

Kurt Welter fut nomm pour former le premier dtachementd'essai de Chasseur Nocturne Me 262 (Erprobungs-Kommando) le 2Novembre 1944. Ce fut le seul Jet Night Fighting allemand outfit dela 2nde guerre mondiale jusqu'au la dernire semaine de Fvrier,Kurt Welter tait le seule pilote volant bord de l'appareil Me 262de nuit. Le dtachement de Welter ne devint pas oprationel avantmi-Dcembre 1944, avec seulement deux Me 262 Al-a's. Ses ordrestaient d'intercepter les attaques de nuit des bombardiers Mosquitotouchant Berlin , connu comme le "Berlin Express". Cela laissait Welter trs peu de temps pour organiser, recruter, quiper etpiloter l'ensemble des missions que les pilotes Allis disent avoirfaites [Hugh Morgan, Me262, Stormbird Rising].

Cela nous laisse avec la question du chasseur raction Me 63.Le Second Escadron de Jagdgeschwader (JG) 400, la premire etseule Escadrille de Combat de Me 63, tait stationne la basearienne de Venlo dans les Pays-Bas et saw limited action until itwas withdrawn to the home wing in Brandis, south of Leipzig, in July


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of 1944. At Brandis, JG 400 saw it's peak of operationalperformance on the 28th of September of 1944 when it was able toscramble 9 Me 63s in order to intercept an Allied day-light bombingraid. This rocket fighter was only used as a day interceptor forbombers, no records exist concerning the night testing of the Me163 at the German experimental airfield, Estelle Retime, which iswhere all of the experimental aircraft were tested for night flying.(Morgan, Price, Ziegler.) Mano Zeigler who flew as one of the threechief test pilots assigned to Erprobungs-Kommando 16 and later aRocket pilot in JG 400 commented on the practicability of flying sucha nocturnal mission in a Me 63, "Trying to land in the dark you'dspread yourself in small pieces around the countryside!" (Zieglerp.113) This aircraft also had an effective combat radius of no morethan 25 miles under perfect visual conditions and thus limited JG400's operations to the Leipzig area for the duration of the war [JeffA. Lindell, The Foo Fighter Mystery Revised, I.U. Folklore Institute].

Lindell goes on to present information about later sightings of mysterious -

and possibly responsive - lights in the Far East where, of course, the warcontinued after Germany's defeat. Interesting, and broadly similar, as thatmaterial is, it doesn't really form part of our investigation into the flight ofhigh-performance German disks. His careful conclusions are, however,helpful. He admits to a fairly sceptical approach to the material, butconclusions drawn from such thorough research have considerable value. Hesays :

At this point it is of vital interest to relate the above terms withthat of "aviator's vertigo." In May of 1946, Dr W E Vinacke

submitted the first ever report concerning folk beliefs amongaviators concerning anomalous experiences associated with flying.In his report 'The Concept of Aviator's Vertigo', Vinacke states

"Vertigo is primarily a psychological problem. It appears to beassociated with the mental hazards of flying, and with the'mysterious' events which sometimes happen in an aircraft. there isthus a two-fold source of emotional loading in the term 'vertigo', iedangerous conditions and unexplained, though actual, phenomena.(Vincacke p.2)

In the pursuit of fairness I have also interviewed the same pilotsperiodically and concerning various topics involving nightflying. This effect hasbeen significant. Pilots who never reported seeing foo fighters were asked ifthey had experienced vertigo. The vertigo stories could easily be classed asfoo fighter stories. These persons tended to be either commanders or highranking experienced night fighters. The point is that there are a wide varietyof "conditions" in which a story can be recounted concerning an anomalouspersonal experience. Persons who had not seen foo fighters could offer nosuch similar experience other than a "mistaken identification" interpretationsuch as St.Elmo's fire, jets, Venus, etc. Persons who had experienced "visual-


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vertigo" in night flying offered experiences which are, for all practicalpurposes, identical to first hand experience narratives concerning foo fighters,baka bombs, jets, Venus, balls of fire and the Jack-o'-lantern. Edgar Vinackecrit :

Les pilotes n'ont pas assez d'information sur le phnomne dedsorientation, et, comme corollaire, reoivent des informationsparticulirement dsorganises, incompltes et imprcises. Ils ne

peuvent en majeure partie compter que sur leur propre exprience,which must supplement and interpret the traditions about 'vertigo'which are passed on to them. When a concept thus grows out ofanecdotes cemented together with practical necessity, it is bound toacquire elements of mystery. So far as 'vertigo' is concerned, noone really knows more than a small part of the facts, but a greatdeal of the peril. Since aviators are not skilled observers of humanbehavior, they usually have only the vaguest understanding of theirown feelings. Like other naive persons, therefore, they have simplyadopted a term to cover a multitude of otherwise inexplicable

events." (Vinacke p.5.) [11]

Surprisingly, this is probably the most thorough account of 'foo fighter'reports yet published, and I've almost completely ignored the reports fromoutside the European theatre of war. There is an excellent book to be writtenabout the whole 'foo fighter' issue, which ideally would include the researchconducted by both Andy Roberts and Jeff Lindell. I would strongly suggest,however, that none of the 'foo fighter' evidence correlates in any objectivemanner with the later claims for the existence of high-performance flyingdisks.

Une note finale au sujet des "foo fighters". Il existe diverses photosd'avions semblant accompagnes de boules, ou leurs brillantes, ou de petitsappareils ou quoi que ce soit. On les prsente rgulirement Mark IanBirdsall du UFO Magazine britannique semble fou d'eux comme une preuvede la ralit physique du phnomne. A ce jour, je n'ai trouv aucun lementquant la spcificit de la provenance de ces photos qui les a prises,quand, o, avec quel appareil photo, dans quelles circonstances, etc. Dans lecas de la photo la plus couramment reproduite, il n'est mme pas clair queltype d'appareil est montr. D'autres images semblent avoir pu facilement

tre manipules. Pour l'instant, ces photos ne prouvent rien d'autre que lavolont d'accepter des lments inappropris pour soutenir une croyancetaye de manire innaproprie. Bien sr, si une provenance significativepouvait tre tablie, mon opinion pourrait bien changer.

Renato Vesco, Feuerballet Kugelblitz

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signalement de presse au sujet des 'foo fighters' en disques volants arms dehaute-performance. Son nom est Renato Vesco, un italien qui crivit 3 livresdans sa propre langue, dont un seul fut traduit en anglais. On publiagalement un de ses articles dans le numro de Aot 1969 du magazine pourhommes amricain Argosy, qui fut probablement un peu plus que a hackwriter's rendering of material in the book. L'article tait intitul Un expertArospatial dclare que les Soucoupes Volantes sont une Arme Secrte duCanada, et in the introduction to the piece there first appears the statementwhich lies at the heart of the authority which Vesco has come to commandover the years. Il dit :

Renato Vesco est un ingnieur en appareils fully licensed et unspcialiste en arospatiale et dveloppement de ramjet. Il a t l'Universit de Rome et, avant la 2nde guerre mondiale, tudia l'Institut Allemand pour le Dveloppement Arien. Pendant laguerre, Vesco travailla avec les allemands aux installations secrtesde Fiat Lake Garda en Italie. Dans les annes 1960s, il travaillapour le Ministre de la Dfense Arienne italien en tant qu'agent

technique undercover, enqutant sur le mystre OVNI [Renato Vesco,Aerospace expert claims Flying Saucers are Canada's Secret Weapon, Argosy

Magazine, Aot 1969].

It is in the context of this statement that many writers have firstconsidered the material set out by Vesco in the first of his three books, oftenwithout having actually seen the book itself. Here are some key selections ofwhat Vesco says about the supposed Feuerball and Kugelblitz in thepaperback version of 'Intercept UFO' :

another center, run by Speer and the S.S. Technical GeneralStaff, had adopted the idea of employing "proximity radiointerference" on the very much more delicate and hence morevulnerable electronic apparatuses of the American night fighters . .. Thus a highly original flying machine was born; it was circular andarmored, more or less resembling the shell of a tortoise, and waspowered by a special turbojet engine, also flat and circular, whoseprinciples of operation recalled the well-known aeolipile of Hero,which generated a great halo of luminous flames. Hence it wasnamed Feuerball (Fireball). It was unarmed and pilotless. Radio-

controlled at the moment of take-off, it then automatically followedenemy aircraft, attracted by their exhaust flames, and approachedclose enough without collision to wreck their radio gear.

The fiery halo around its perimeter - caused by a very rich fuelmixture - and the chemical additives that interrupted the flow ofelectricity by overionising the atmosphere in the vicinity of theplane, generally around the wing tips or tail surfaces, subjected theH2S radar on the plane to the action of powerful electrostatic fieldsand electromagnetic impulses (the latter generated by largeklystron radio tubes protected with special antishock and antiheat


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armor). Since a metal arc carrying an oscillating current of theproper frequency - equal, that is, to the frequency used by theradar station - can cancel the blips (return signals from the target),the Feuerball was almost undetectable by the most powerfulAmerican radar of the time, despite its nighttime visibility.

In addition, the builders of the device hoped - and their hopeswere fulfilled - that when the Allied flyers, not knowing their nature

or purpose, noticed that the fiery balls were apparently harmless,they would not fire on these enormous-looking (because of theirlarge halos of fire) "inoffensive" devices for fear of being caught insome gigantic explosion. More than one, in fact, as they fearfullywatched those huge lights close in, the American pilots thought thatsome German technician on the ground was perhaps getting readyto push a button and cause the Foo Fighter to explode.

Project Feuerball was first constructed at the aeronauticalestablishment at Wiener Neustadt, with the help of the Fluggfunk

Forschungsanstalt of Oberpfaddenhoffen (F.F.O.) in so far as radiocontrol of the missile was concerned (but was it really a missile ?)One person who saw the first short test flights of the device,without its electrical gear, says that "during the day it looked like ashining disc spinning on its axis and during the night it looked like aburning globe".

Hermann Goring inspecta la progression du travail denombreuses fois, for he hoped, as in fact happened, that themechanical principle could also later be used to produce an

offensive weapon capable of revolutionising the whole field of aerialwarfare.

When the Russians began to press on toward Austria, theconstruction of the first Fireballs was apparently continued by anumber of underground plants in the Schwarzwald that were run bythe Zeppelin Werke. The klystron tubes were supplied by thesection of the Forschungsanstalt der Deutschen Reichpost (F.D.R.P.)of Aach bei Radolfzell on Lake Constance, and later also by theF.D.R.P. section of Gehlberg, whose products, however, were not as

perfect as those delivered by the F.D.R.P., a fact that caused anumber of Fireballs to be used simultaneously in formation [RenatoVesco, Intercept UFO, Grove Press New York, 1971, p.85].

Expressly identifying the reports of aerial lights known in some parts of theUS Air Force as 'foo fighters' as being evidence of the amazing, hitherto andhereafter unheard of secret weapon he called the Feuerball, Vesco sets outsome more technical details :

Les Foo Fighters contenaient une charge explosive importantepour les dtruire en vol au cas o un dgt srieux du systme de


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guidage automatique aurait empch les oprateurs de lescontrler. Il semble cependant qu' l'poque o on les vit pour ladernire fois, au moins un aviateur amricain ouvrit le feu sur unFoo Fighter, une distance sre, sans arriver le descendre, bienqu'il l'ait eu clairement en ligne de mire. A convincing detail, this,especially in view of the fact that under the armored covering of theFoo Fighters there was a thin sheet of aluminum attached to it (butelectrically insulated) that acted as a switch. Lorsqu'une balleperait la coque externe, un contact entre les deux couches taittabli et la fermeture de circuit ainsi cause dclenchait uneacclration maximale du dispositif ou de l'appareil (gneralementen direction verticale) qui faisait partir le Foo Fighter, l'emmenanthors de porte de tout autre tir ennemi [Renato Vesco, Intercept UFO,Grove Press New York 1971, p.86].

Now and then, Vesco includes references which support his claims, but henever does so with regard to the Feuerball. Analysons ce qu'il dit en fait ici, etdans quelle mesure cela est cens (si a l'est) parce que, grce Vesco, et

Vesco seul, nous savons que cet appareil tait conu pour raliser uneinterfrence radio de proximit :

tait circulaire and armored, more or less resembling the shell of atortoise"apparaissait norme"le jour ressemblait un disque brillant tournant sur son axe et la nuitapparaissait comme un globe brlanttait propuls par un moteur turboraction spcial, aussi plat etcirculaire, qui gnrait un grand halo de flammes lumineux autour de

son primtre.n'tait pas arm et sans pilotetait contrll par radio au moment du dcollagesuivait automatiquement les appareils ennemis, attir par les flammesde leurs tuyress'approchait suffisamment prs de l'appareil ennemi, sans collision, pourwreck their radio gear.transportait de grand tubes radio de klystron protgs avec une armorspciale anti-chocs et anti-chaleurpouvait tre utilis simultanment en formation avec d'autres feuerballs

contained a strong explosive charge to destroy it in flight in case seriousdamage to the automatic guidance system made it impossible for theoperators to control ithad under its armored covering a thin sheet of aluminum attached to it(but electrically insulated) that acted as a switch. When a bullet piercedthe outer covering, contact between the two sheets was established andthe consequent closing of the circuit that operated the maximumacceleration device of the craft (generally in a vertical direction) causedit to fly off, taking it out of the range of further enemy firehad chemical additives (in its fuel?) that interrupted the flow of electricity


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by overionising the atmosphere in the vicinity of the plane, generallyaround the wing tips or tail surfaces, subjecting the H2S radar on theplane to the action of powerful electrostatic fields and electromagneticimpulses, making it almost undetectable by the most powerful Americanradar of the time

I dont want to labour the point here - we could go on for a long timemaking fun of this nonsense - but this is not a description of anything real.

We arent told what its actual size was. We know that it had no wings, butthat it did carry a powerful engine, two layers of metal to protect it andtrigger its escape when hit, liquid fuel (lots of it, presumably), large klystronradio tubes protected with special antishock and antiheat armor, a strongexplosive charge, radio control equipment, and the absolutely mysteriousdevices which interfered with radio transmissions and made it nearly invisibleto radar. It must, therefore, have been a dense, heavy, tortoise-shapedpackage. We can only speculate how it developed the lift not only to reachheights of 10000 to 25000 feet (the range within which bombing raids usuallytook place), at speeds in excess of 200mph just to follow the bombers, and

faster to accelerate away from them.

It seems to have been radio-controlled at launch (however launch wasachieved, let alone landing - were these devices meant to be landed andreused?), and also, because otherwise why would it contain a strongexplosive charge to destroy it in flight in case serious damage to theautomatic guidance system made it impossible for the operators to control itduring flight. Between 2 and 5 miles up. In the dark. Following aircrafttravelling at 200mph or so, apparently over considerable distances. We areagain left to speculate how the operators knew what they were controlling,

what was happening to their particular feuerball at any given moment, orwhat form of radio control could, in 1943 - 1945, work that accurately overthat distance. Vesco does not address the question of how direction or speedof flight (if the motion of an armoured wingless tortoise can be accuratelydescribed as flight) was controlled or determined.

D'autres questions surviennent. Comment la feuerball distinguait-elle unappareil ennemi d'un ami ? Comment s'arrtait-elle de suivre les flammes detuyre ? O allait-elle lorsqu'elle s'arrtait ? Pourquoi, when it was travellinglaterally behind the engines of an enemy aircraft, attracted by its exhaust

flames, did it suddenly depart generally in a vertical direction when hit ?Which chemical additives interrupted the flow of electricity by overionising theatmosphere in the vicinity of the plane ? Just how did that work ? How did itwreck the radio gear of enemy aircraft ? Where ? When ? And how, for pityssake, could these devices ever have flown in formation with other feuerballs ?

Those of you who actually know about aeronautical engineering - as Vescois supposed to have done - will be able to phrase these questions far betterthan I. Perhaps Vesco himself would like to put his mind to answering them: Icertainly cant. At present, though Im happy to be persuaded otherwise, andto publish any hard evidence to that effect, my view is that the feuerball -


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which even Lusar had never heard of - is a fantasy. How this fantasy came tobe published, Im really not sure. But I wondered for a year or two how hehad come to construct these pseudo-technical descriptions, which originateabsolutely and only with Vesco. Eventually I realised that what he had donewas to look at the few reports of 'foo fighters' that he quotes - from the'American Legion Magazine' and 'Amazing Stories', because he didn't have thebenefit of the excellent investigative work done by Roberts or Lindell - and tobuild round those descriptions of the behaviour of those lights, speculativetechnical explanations which he considered matched their reportedperformance. The only reasonable conclusion available to me is that Vesco -or one of his obviously careless editors or publishers - put these 'technical'descriptions in his book knowing that they had no factual basis. Passing time,the laziness of later authors, and the inexplicable readiness to believe in thewonders of Nazi intellect has gradually turned these dumb speculations intoaccepted facts.

Unless strong and reliable evidence appears to the contrary, I think wecan dismiss the feuerball - and its even less defined relative the kugelblitz, to

which Vesco mistakenly gave the name of a flak panzer in development earlyin 1945 - as objects that never had any physical reality, and were probablynever even designed. I think that we could, quite reasonably do this ontechnical and scientific grounds alone.

Yet Vesco continues to be highly influential, regarded as the leadingauthority of the Axis on secret technological developments in aeronautics.And, given his background, his experience and his authority, as summarisedin the article in 'Argosy', what could be wrong with that ?

Had readers looked as far as the cover of the book from which theseclaims came, they would have found a substantially different version ofVesco's authority to that given in 'Argosy'. This didn't say that he had, beforeWWII, studied at the German Institute for Aerial Development. Or that,during the war, he had worked with the Germans at the Fiat Lake Gardasecret installations in Italy. Nor did it claim that In the 1960s, he worked forthe Italian Air Ministry of Defense as an undercover technical agent,investigating the UFO mystery. Instead, it said that :

Renato Vesco naquit Arona, Italie, en 1924. Pilote diplm, en

1944 il commanda la section technique de la Force ArienneItalienne. En 1946-47 il servit dans le Reparto Tecnico Caccia. M.Vesco a t membre snior de l'Association Italienned'Arotechnique partir de 1943, et tudie les problmesaronautiques, en particulier dans le domaine de la propulsion raction. Il contribue diverses publications aronautiques. [15]

Il est clair que quelque chose est compltement faux ici. N en 1924,Vesco aurait eu 14 ou 15 ans lorsque la 2nde guerre mondiale clata. A coupsr, cet ge, il n'a pas tudi l'Universit de Rome ni l'Institut Allemandpour le Dveloppement Arien. If he worked with the Germans at the Fiat


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Lake Garda secret installations in Italy, why didn't other authorities mentionhim?

Would he really have "commanded the technical section of the Italian AirForce" at the age of 19 or 20, and been a senior member of the ItalianAssociation of Aerotechnics" at the age of 18 or 19? Surely, if he really werethat remarkable, that important, his name would have appeared in the indexor references of at least one of the countless books about the war that I've

examined ? Yet it doesn't. Who was Vesco, and what did he really knowabout wartime German aircraft ? Where did his material come from ?

Thanks to the highly-respected Italian researchers Maurizio Verga andEduardo Russo, we now have clear answers to these questions: they bothknow Vesco personally. As Verga says :

Vesco existe, absolument ! ... C'est un vieil homme maintenant,n en 1924. What's written by him by people like Al Pinto on theInternet and BBSs, as well as by Harbinson, is complete rubbish.

His introduction in the 1971 English translation of his first book isquite accurate, even though he was not commanding any "technicalsection" in the Italian Air Force... He was an aeronautical engineerand he got an interest in flying saucers (always seen as a secretdevelopment of man-made aircraft) in the late 40's. He publishedseveral articles (about German secret weapons, flying saucers,aviation and other subjects) since the very early '50s, soonbecoming a real skeptic against the then-common idea of ETH visits(he commented and explained some sightings due to atmosphericor conventional phenomena). The manuscript of his first book was

ready in 1956, but he stopped publication because he was to goabroad for a long time, due to his job. When he was back in the'60s, after collecting a huge quantity of additional stuff, he hadhundreds and hundreds of written pages, later to be turned into histhree books. Vesco claims his sources are BIOS and CIOS reportsdating between 1945 and 1947, plus other military and intelligencedocuments, mostly British. He told me "important persons" (I guesshigh-ranking officers from the Italian Air Force and other foreign AirForces) contributed to his research with information and documentsstill classified. He promised not to make public their names, even

though he says that most of them are surely dead. I know heborrowed the BIOS/CIOS reports he quoted in his books from someItalian AF officers, through the library or libraries of the IAF itself . .It is true he is the only aviation student who introduced the'Feuerball' and 'Kugelblitz' devices, at least as far as I know. Pleasealso note that 'Kugelblitz' was a name given to other Germanweapons, including a flak panzer.

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The deceptive biographical information provided by Vescos variouspublishers has succeeded in misleading many later writers and researchers,and in providing support for the false claims of others. Like all too many ofthose involved in the world of Nazi UFOs, Vesco gave an impression ofauthority, and that authority was accepted without challenge.

It now appears that Vesco was a man with an interest in man-made UFOs,who was strongly opposed to the extra-terrestrial hypothesis (ETH), used to

explain many early flying saucer sightings. He provides, in the feuerball andkugelblitz accounts given in a book we now know was completed by 1956,what sounds like a convincing hypothesis for explaining away, without theinvolvement of spacemen and interplanetary travel, not only the 'foo fighter'reports of which he was aware, but also the very physical sightings andphotographs of the late 40s and early 50s. It is unfortunate that, in seekingto use his knowledge of aeronautical engineering to popularise what heapparently saw as a rational explanation for a body of irrational reports andinterpretations, he only succeeded in co-founding the Nazi UFO mythos, aliving and growing belief system which, for sheer irrationality and

unpleasantness, came to far exceed anything from those innocent early daysof ufology.

Major Lusar, lesconstructeurs desoucoupe, et le vold'essai

Le livre Armes secrtes allemandes de la seconde guerre mondiale deRudolf Lusar contient moins de 2 pages de texte dans la section titre"Soucoupes volantes", mais son influence a t pour le moins remarquable.Voici, dans son intgralit, le texte de cette brve section :

Les soucoupes volantes have been whirling round the worlddepuis 1947, suddenly turning up here and there, soaring in anddarting off again at unprecedented speed with flames encircling therim of the saucer's disc. Elles ont t localises par radar,

poursuivies par des chasseurs et personne encore n'a russijusqu'ici tablir l'existence de ces "soucoupes volantes" ouparvenu ram or shoot one down. Le public, et mme les experts,are perplexed by an ostensible mystery or a technical miracle. Maislentement la vrit sort que mme durant la guerre les chercheurset scientifiques allemands firent les premiers pas dans la directionde ces "soucoupes volantes". Ils construisirent et testrent suchnear-miraculous contraptions. Des experts et collaborateurs de cetravail confirment que les premiers projets, appels "disquesvolants", furent entrepris en 1941. Les concepts de ces "disques

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Habermohl et Miethe, et l'italien Bellonzo. Habernohl et Schrieverchoisirent un anneau de grande surface qui tournait autour d'unhabitacle fix, en forme de coupole. L'anneau consistait ailes-dicodales ajustables qui pouvaient tre amens en positionapproprie pour le dcollage ou vol horizontal respectivement.Miethe dveloppa une assiette en forme de disque d'un diamtre de42 m dans laquelle des racteurs ajustables taient insrs.Schriever et Habermohl, qui travaillaient Prague, dcollrent avecle premier "disque volant" le 14 Fvrier 1945. En 3 mn ilsmontrent une altitude de 12400 m et atteignirent une vitesse de2000 km/h en vol horizontal (!) Il tait prvu terme d'atteindredes vitesses de l'ordre de 4000 km/h.

Des essais et recherches complets taient ncessaires avantqu'une construction puisse commencer. En raison de la grandevitesse et du stress de chaleur extraordinaire, des matriauxspciaux rsistant la chaleur special devaient tre trouvs. Ledveloppement, qui cota des millions, tait presque termin la

fin de la guerre. Les modles existants furent alors dtruits maisl'installation de Breslau o Miethe travailla tomba dans les mainsdes russes qui emmenrent tout le matriel et les experts enSibrie, o le travail sur ces "soucoupes volantes" se poursuit avecsuccs.

Schriever s'chappa de Prague temps; Habermohl, cependant,est probablement en Union Sovitique, rien n'tant connu de sondestin. L'ancien concepteur Miethe est aux Etats-Unis et, autant quel'on sache, construit des "soucoupes volantes" pour les Etats-Unis et

le Canada aux travaux A. V. Roe. Il y a des annes, l'U.S. Air Forcereut l'ordre de ne pas tirer sur les "soucoupes volantes". Ceci estune indication de l'existence des "soucoupes volantes" amricainesqui ne doivent pas tre mises en danger. Les formes volantesobserves jusqu'ici sont dcrites comme ayant des diamtres de16, 42, 45 et 75 m respectivement et atteindre des vitesses allantjusqu' 7000 km/h. (?). En 1952 des "soucoupes volantes" weredefinitely established over Korea and Press reports said they wereseen also during the NATO manoeuvres in Alsace in the autumn of1954. On ne peut plus contester que les "soucoupes volantes"

existent. But the fact that their existence is still being denied,particularly in America, because United States developments havenot progressed far enough to match the Soviet Union's, gives foodfor thought. There also seems some hesitation to recognise thatthese novel "flying saucers" are far superior to conventional aircraft- including modern turbo-jet machines - that they surpass theirflying performance, load capacity and maneouvrability and therebymake them obsolete [Lusar op cit p.].

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I am grateful to the carefully-presented information provided by MaurizioVerga on the UFO Online website [www.ufo.it/german] () for much of thematerial I have used, in this section, to try and answer the questions raisedby Lusar.

Belluzzo

La plus ancienne dclaration d'un individu dcrivant la construction d'undisque volant en temps de guerre est faite par Guiseppe Belluzzo le ou versle 27 Mars 1950, une poque o apparaissent un certain nombre designalements de soucoupes volantes dans les media italiens, et o l'intrteuropen est lev. A cette date le journal Italien Il Mattino dell'ItaliaCentrale publie, avec un dessin with a vague and uninformative line-drawingas illustration, Belluzzo's apparent claim that circular aircraft had beendeveloped since 1942, first in Italy, and then in Germany. The Italian ideawas, supposedly, developed by the Germans in North-East Norway. The storyalso appeared in 'Il Corriere della Sera', 'La Nazione', and 'La Gazzetta del

Popolo', and, in 'Il Corriere d'Informazione' of March 29-30 1950, with acomment by a General Ranza of the Italian Air Force dismissing Belluzzo'sclaims. It seems that Belluzzo did not claim that the disc flew during the warbut that, by 1950, it had been sufficiently developed to deliver an atombomb. This development was said to be some 10 metres wide, constructedwith very light materials, and unmanned.

We know something of Belluzzo's background and competence. Verganotes that he lived from November 25 1876 to May 21 1952, and was aturbine expert who published nearly fifty technical books. He was elected tothe pre-war Fascist parliament, and from 1925 to 1928 served as Minister ofthe National Economy. I have traced a listing for a book of his - on turbines -full of technical drawings and translated into English in 1926. It is quitefeasible that he could have contributed to a range of technological projects,but it seems that he never claimed to have built a flying disc, nor to havenamed those who worked with the Germans in Norway. As in all such reports,no viable propulsion, launch, lift, flight, control or landing data is provided,and the criteria for publication seems to have been that the object shouldresemble the flying saucers which, as ever, had caught the media's attention.

It is quite possible that a former Fascist minister would be happy to seek a

little belated glory for his nation and his regime, but for all of the laterinterpretations of his role in the history of Nazi UFOs his claims were verylimited, and so far as the assertion of a design for a reasonably-sized,unmanned flying disc was concerned, they are neither unique nor implausible.Belluzzo may, in part at least, have been telling the truth.

It is worth noting that several later sources changed the name of the oneindividual who we can be sure actually had some relevant technicalbackground from Belluzzo to Bellonzo.


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Schreiver

News travels fast. Verga speculates that the Belluzzo story was alsopublished in Germany, where it would certainly have been of great interest.Anyway, just days after Belluzzo's claims were first published, one RudolphSchreiver made very similar claims in a general flying saucer article in 'DerSpiegel' for March 30 1950. He, too, claimed only that he developed

blueprints, starting in 1942, which he believed later fell into the hands of theAmericans or Germans. The article first introduced a wonderfully infeasibledrawing/diagram which looked like something designed by a latterday OttoLilienthal and, of course, lacked any meaningful technical information. Thisregularly resurfaces (most recently as an amazing new and secret discoveryon the Sightings website [19]) in the belief-oriented media. It is said thatdrawings of flying discs were found among Schreiver's possessions after hedied in the late 1950s.

It seems that Schriever described himself as "Flugkapitan Schriever", and

that in March 1950 he was working for the US Forces in Germany, deliveringcopies of the newspaper 'Stars and Stripes' to army bases. Vladimir Terziski,that least reliable of sources, tries to find some glamour in this job,suggesting it was a cover for smuggling valuables of various kinds for someNazi underground. Harbinson says that he purported that his 'flying disc' hadbeen ready for testing in early 1944, but, with the advance of the Allies intoGermany, the test had been cancelled, and the machine destroyed. Initially,though, he appears to have claimed little more than Belluzzo earlier the sameweek. Again, his involvement is just a side-bar to media coverage of a UFOflap. Again, it is others who have made entirely different claims for him. Afterall, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to be a lorry driver.

Miethe

There is an interview with a "Dr Richard Miethe", 'German aeronauticalengineer' and 'ex-Colonel', in France-Soir for 7 June 1952. I only have atranscript, in French, but apparently the paper also published a photo of DrMiethe in his swimming trunks.

My French isn't great, but it seems that in the interview with Dr Miethe,

conducted in Tel Aviv in June 1952, he says that he is 40 years old, givesspecific details of his military background, and claims that he built a flying-saucer - the V7 which he built in 1944, the motors of which the Russiansfound at Breslau. He claims that from April 1943 he commanded a group oftechnicians of the 10th Reich Army, at Essen, Stettin and Dortmund, wherethe main research into German secret weapons was conducted. He doesn'tname any of the other six engineers he says were involved, but says clearlythat three are dead, and three are believed to have been taken by theRussians.

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Brazilian flying saucer reports, and his opinion that if flying saucers are seen,then they will have been Russian-built from the knowledge of his threecaptured colleagues. But perhaps the most important point of all is that thisMiethe seems to have had nothing to do with the USA, Operation Paperclip,or anything similar. The article says, I think, that a few days before theGerman surrender he left the front to join the Arab Legion based in AddisAbaba and Cairo, where a number of Hitler's senior officers had regrouped.At the time of the interview, in Tel Aviv, it seems that he had been ejectedfrom Egypt, where he says he had been working with others to reconstructthe engine with which his earlier flying disc had been powered. The trigger forthe expulsion may have been a breakdown in diplomatic relations betweenGermany and Egypt.

As ever, we have no idea how the saucer flew or functioned, but morethan two years later, in September 1952, the Italian magazine publishedsome fuzzy, unconvincing photos of something looking not unlike a curlingstone, on an angle against a featureless background (those featurelessbackgrounds are everywhere in 50s ufology). These, 'Tempo' claims, were

taken over the Baltic on April 17, 1944, when the Miethe saucer was test-flown. The article persisted with the assertion that the Russians had obtainedthe secrets of these miraculous flying discs.

George Klein - Fvrier 1945

Harbinson notes que le tmoin visuel Georg Klein, un ancien ingnieur duMinistre pour l'Armement et les Munitions de Albert Speer... dclara lapresse avoir effectivement vu un vol d'essai du disque Schriever, ou unsemblable, prs de Prague le 14 Fvrier 1945.

Redfern et Downes citent un rapport de la CIA dat du 27 Mai 1954, quiindique :

Un journal allemand (pas plus identifi que cela) a rcemmentpubli une interview de George Klein, clbre ingnieur allemand etexpert d'appareils ariens, dcrivant la construction exprimentalede "soucoupes volantes" qu'il mena de 1941 1945. Klein a dclaravoir t prsent lorsque, en 1945, la premire "soucoupe volante"pilote dcolla et atteignit la vitesse de 1,3000 miles par heure en 3

minutes. Les expriences rsultrent en trois conceptions : uneconception de Miethe fut un appareil en forme de disque, de 135pieds de diamtre, qui n'effectuait pas de rotation; une autre deHabermohl et Schriever, consistait en un grand anneau rotatif, aucentre duquel tait un habitcle rond et stationnaire pourl'quipage. Lorsque les sovitiques occuprent Prague, lesallemands dtruirent toute trace des "soucoupes volantes" et onentendit plus parler de Habermohl et de ses assistants [Redfern, N andDownes, J (2000) Weird War Tales 1 - UFOs: 1939-45 Weird War Tales Library].


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Le journal allemand semble avoir t le Welt am Sonntag des (des datesdiffrentes sont donnes) 25 et 26 Avril 1953. L'Article est intitul Erste'Flugscheibe' flog 1945 in Prag, et il y a une photo de "George Klein"'montrant le mme vague diagramme que les reproductions de Lusar.

Habermohl

It may be that there is another source of which I'm not aware, but 'Klaus'Habermohl seems to have made his first and last appearance in Klein's 1953account. Real history and science reveal nothing of his existence or hisachievements. He may well have lived nowhere but in the active brain of HerrKlein, of whose existence the worlds of science and engineering are similarlyill-informed.

La question Lusar - rsolue

The copy of German Secret Weapons of the Second World War that I read

came from the British Library. It is worth noting that it didn't have a dustjacket, which may have contained additional information, but the text of thebook itself gives no clue as to the author's background, his sources, or of anyspecial authority or knowledge he might have had, or of access to informationthat was not already in the public domain. To afford some impression ofauthority, others have given Lusar various different jobs and titles by variousdifferent commentators, but as with so many others in the mythos, there isno objective evidence to verify any of them. The simple fact is that all the'factual' content of Lusar's section about 'flying saucers' came from thecontent of the newspaper comments by Belluzzo, Schriever and Klein. He

seems to have been aware of the Tempo article including the photos of the'Miethe saucer', but not of the earlier interview with Miethe. He has Miethe asa builder of saucers, but says he is in Canada, and not in Egypt or Israel. Heignores the fact that neither Belluzzo nor Schriever - initially at least withregard to the latter - claimed that discs had been built or flown. Instead, headds Klein's claims of construction and flight to the names and supposedbackground of Belluzzo and Schriever and, as he had seen the photos ofMiethe's disc in Tempo, purports that Miethe's design flew, too. Why heexcluded Klein's name from Secret Weapons . . is not clear, but because hewasn't named, he never achieved the fame of the others. Even Habermohl,

whose name was neither German nor Italian, and who probably never existedat all in the context of the development of flying discs, has achieved greaterfame than George Klein. Perhaps we can, in future, acknowledge the vital,perhaps paramount part he played in building the Nazi UFO mythos. After all,it was Klein who decided that the high-performance wartime discs actuallyflew: Lusar only gave Klein's decision lasting, international publicity.

Very few writers have made clear that Lusar actually wrote his explanationof German disc developments in the context of worldwide flying saucerreports. Indeed, little emphasis has been placed on the fact that all of thematerial published prior to Lusar's book only appeared in that context,


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providing a relatively local angle on reports of flying saucers further afield.Given the total absence of tangible, objective, contemporary evidence tosupport any of Lusar's assertions, I think we can safely say that Nazi UFOs didnot lead to any of the reports of flying saucers from 1947 onwards. It wouldbe far more accurate to say that the flying saucer craze led to the making ofincreasingly false and hollow claims about the existence, and achievements,of Nazi UFOs.

Finally, the question of why Vesco, published in 1969, didn't mention Lusaror the Saucer Builders. The answer seems to be that because Vescos firstbook (the only one of interest to us here) was completed in 1956, before theearliest version of Lusars book appeared, and because Lusars book waspublished long before the actual publication of Vescos first book in 1969, weshouldnt be surprised that their two theories of German flying saucers areentirely exclusive: Lusar doesnt mention Vescos feuerball and kugelblitz, andVesco has clearly never heard of Lusars SMBH disk. There's no mystery here.There just isnt anything at all !

W. A. Harbinson et leProjekt Saucer

L'Auteur de S.-F. W. A. Harbinson a crit une srie de chunky paperbacksbased on the Nazi UFO mythos. The series is run under the overall titleProjekt Saucer, the key titles relating to WWII being Inception and Genesis[Published by New English Library, London]. I find his writing interesting and oftenquite exciting, though the accounts of violence and cold Nazi ruthlessness can

be a little strong for my taste. Were these books sold only as fiction, they'dbe of little interest to us here.

However, not only do the novels include an 'Author's Note' which suggeststhat the author's own research has established a factual basis to his 'fiction',but he has also published a non-fiction book , Projekt UFO. The blurb on theback says :

Pendant prs d'un demi-sicle, depuis mme les premiresobservations d'OVNIs de Juin 1947, on a considr que lessoucoupes volantes, si elles existent, sont d'origine extraterrestre.Projekt UFO: The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers prouve demanire concluante que ce n'est pas le cas [Harbinson, W A (1995)Projekt UFO - The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers Boxtree London (back

cover)].

The book extends well beyond the end of WWII, and for the most part itdeals with the usual post-war questions regarding the reality of UFO sightings,the development of terrestrial technologies, and key cases, such as Socorro.It also introduces - in Harbinson's Foreword - the 'Brisant' document, one ofthe truly great ufological red herrings :


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En Mai 1978, at Stand 111 in a scientific exhibition in theHanover Messe Hall, some gentlemen were giving away what atfirst sight appeared to be an orthodox scientific newspaper calledBrisant. The paper contained two seem-ingly unrelated articles: oneon the scientific and ecological value of the Antarctic, the otherabout a Ger-man World War II flying saucer construction project,nomm "Projekt Saucer".

The first article, written from a neo-Nazi standpoint, included asuggestion that West Germany should claim back their right toQueen Maud Land in the Antarctic, which the Nazis stole from theNorwegians during World War II and renamed Neu Schwabenland.The second article, which asserted that the German scientists werethe first, but not the only ones, to construct highly advancedsaucer-shaped aircraft, was accompanied by reproductions oftechnical drawings 6f a World War II flying saucer.

The unnamed author failed to name the designer of the flying

saucer and claimed that the drawings had been altered by the WestGerman government to render them 'safe' for publication. Addingweight to his claim, he also pointed out that during World War II allsuch inventions, whether civilian or military, would have beensubmitted to the nearest patent office where, under paragraphs30a and 99 of the Patent-und Straf8ezetsbuch, they would havebeen routinely classified as 'secret.' After being confiscated andpassed on to one of Himmler's many 55 research establishments, atthe end of the war they would perhaps have disappeared intosecret Soviet files, or into equally secret British and US files, or lost

with 'missing' German scientists and SS troops.

The rest of the article was just as intriguing. It claimed thatthroughout the course of World War II the Germans sent ships andplanes to Queen Maud Land, or Neu Schwa-benland, in theAntarctic, with equipment for massive underground complexes,similar to those they had con-structed in Thuringia and the HarzMountains in Germany. It said that at the end of the war some ofthe scientists and engineers who had worked on Projekt Saucerescaped from Germany by submarine and ended up in an

underground base in the Antarctic, where they continued toconstruct even more advanced flying saucers, and that theAmericans and Soviets, upon learning about this, then used theircaptured German scientists and technical papers for the secretconstruction of their own flying saucers [Harbinson, W A (1995) ProjektUFO - The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers Boxtree London, Foreword].

Mark Ian Birdsall, dans son article La solution ultime, considre que c'estHarbinson lui-mme qui trouva 'Brisant', bien que Harbinson ne fasse pas detelle dclaration :


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Harbinson while researching 'Genesis' paid a visit to the semi-Northern city of Hannover in the late 70's. It was here that hereportedly attended a science lecture exhibition at the 'HannoverMesse Hall'. Whilst looking around the hall, Harbinson arrived atstand number 111, it was here that he was handed a magazinecalled "Brisant" [Mark Ian Birdsall, 1988? The Ultimate Solution Self-publishedp.13].

I wrote to Harbinson via his publishers to ask for further information about'Brisant', because it is clearly - if it ever actually existed - a key document inthe development of the mythos. Henry Stephens of the German ResearchProject (see below) offers copies of what he says are some pages, and claimsthat the originals of 'Brisant' were lost by Harbinson's publishers: so I askedabout that, too. Unfortunately, I received no response, so the authority andprovenance of 'Brisant' remain unknown.

Harbinson seems to have been inspired by the content of the paper,despite the implausibility of the bit about the patent office and the plans

having been "altered by the West German government to render them 'safe'for publication". That sounds more like an excuse for the technical infeasibilitywhich afflicts every diagram of discs in the mythos. Undeterred, Harbinsoncontinues :

Cette thorie expliquerait pourquoi, mme avant la glasnost,l'ensembles des nations du monde - y compris les Sovitiques et lesAmericains - n'avaient coopr l'un avec l'autre qu'en Antarctique.En rsum, les soucoupes volantes vues par de si nombreusespersonnes depuis la 2nde guerre mondiale ne sont pas des

vaisseaux spatiaux extraterrestres, mais, en fait, des machinesextraordinairement avances, top secrtes, faites de la main del'homme. Elles viennent simplement d'ici sur Terre...

During my two years of intensive research, I uncovered writtenand photographic evidence which proved beyond doubt that NaziGermany had in fact initiated a research programme for thedevelopment of saucer-shaped aircraft. I found that at the close ofthe war seasoned Allied pilots were sub-mitting official reportsabout harassment by 'balls of fire' that tailed them and made theiraircraft and radar mal-function. In addition, one of the leadingmembers of Germany's Projekt Saucer development teamdisappeared into the Soviet Union and another went to work withGer-man rocket expert, Wernher von Braun, for NASA in the UnitedStates...

My research also uncovered articles about man-made flyingsaucers, in-cluding the German Kugelblitz and the Canadian AVRO-Car prototype published not only by the 'lunatic' fringe but by highlyrespected aeronautical magazines such as Lufthahrt International,the Royal Air Force Flying Review, and the US News and World


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Report. So, flying saucers, whether primitive or highly advanced,were certainly constructed in Nazi Germany and post-war Canada,in the latter case with the aid of the United States.

In 1980, my 615-page novel, Genesis, based on a mass ofresearch material, including that mentioned above, was published.It became a bestseller on both sides of the Atlantic, eventuallybecoming a 'cult' book, and is still in print ten years after its

publication. Reviewing the novel on its publication in the UnitedStates, Publishers Weekly said: 'Harbinson has drawn so heavily onfactual material and integrated it so well into the text that the bookbegins to read like non-fiction... [Harbinson op cit p.5].

That Publishers Weekly was so impressed says much for the quality ofHarbinson's writing, but little for his research. In his chapter 'Technology andSightings of World War II' we find a familiar statement, with a few addeddetails :

Renato Vesco was an aircraft engineer specializing in aerospaceand ramjet developments. Educated before World War II at theUniversity of Rome, he then studied aeronautical engineering at theGerman Institute for Aerial Development. During the war, he wassent to work with the Germans at Fiat's immense undergroundinstallations at Lake Garda, near Limone in northern Italy, where hehelped in the production of aeronautical devices that were tested atthe Hermann Goering Institute of Riva del Garda. After the war, inthe 1960s. Vesco worked for the Italian Air Ministry of Defence asan undercover tech-nical agent, investigating the UFO phenomenon

[Harbinson op cit p. 61].

Harbinson accepts Vesco's claims without further ado, and then goes on,in his chapter 'Division of the Scientific Spoils of War', to accept Lusar, too,saying :

An article about 'Projekt Saucer' was later published in theindispensable volume, German Secret Weapons of the SecondWorld War (1959) by Major Rudolph Lusar, and in-cludedreproductions of the flying saucer drawings of Schriever and Miethe[Harbinson op cit p. 72].

Harbinson sets out more of Lusar's material, and then reports, helpfully,some research of his own :

Schriever's recollection of the test flight date is contra-dicted incertain details by alleged eye witness Georg Klein, a formerengineer with Albert Speer's Ministry for Armament andAmmunition, who told the press that he had actually seen the testflight of the Schriever disc, or one similar, near Prague on 14February 1945. A certain doubt may be cast on Klein's date, since


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according to the War Diary of the 8th Air Fleet, 14 February 1945was a day of low cloud, rain, snow and generally poor visibility -hardly the conditions for the testing of a revolutionary new kind ofaircraft.

One of those who may have been involved in the actual Projekt Saucer isHeinrich Fleischner, of Dasing, Augsburg in the Federal German Republic.Interviewed for the 2 May 1980 edition of Neue Presse magazine, Fleischner,

who was then seventy-six, claimed that he had been a technical consultant ona jet-propelled, disc-shaped aircraft that had been constructed by a team oftechnicians in Peenemunde, though the parts had been built in many otherplaces. According to Fleischner, Hermann Goering had been the patron' of theaircraft and had planned to use it as a courier plane. At the end of the war,the Wehrmacht des-troyed most of the plans and a few of the 'unimportant'drawings fell into the hands of the Russians.

Hermann Klaas, from Muhlheim, West Germany, a bio-technicianspecializing in aerodynamic phenomena, was another who claimed to have

worked on various remote-controlled models for disc-shaped aircraft duringWorld War II. The most common model was 2.4 metres in diameter andpropelled by an electro-engine supplied by the Luftwaffe. According to Klaas,these models were simi-lar to those then being developed by Schriever,Haber-mohl, Miethe, and Belluzzo in Bohmen (Czechoslovakia) and Breslau(now Wrocklaw, Poland) [Harbinson op cit p. 74].

Overall, bearing in mind the quality of most of his sources, Harbinson'sresearch is better than most: it takes a while to realise that the world ofufology is full of dreams, misapprehensions and outright lies. For me, though,

why the Germans would have called their enterprise 'Projekt Saucer' is amystery in itself. The drawings produced during the 1950s, and even in thehypothetical 'Brisant', in no way resemble saucers, 'saucer' is not a Germanword, and the term 'flying saucers' didn't appear until 1947 when a journalistmistook Kenneth Arnold's description of the way unidentified objects moved inthe air over the Cascade Mountains for a description of what they looked like.Maybe this is what they call artistic licence, fine for fiction, but distinctly out ofplace if it's conveyed as the truth. I have no hesitation in concluding thatthere was no 'Projekt Saucer' in the real world, and that Harbinson has,presumably quite inadvertently, made a major contribution to the

development of the mythos.

Vril, Haunebu et levoyage interplantaire

Vladimir Terziski

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this piece is a book, probably from 1993, called Close Encounters of theKugelblitz Kind, by Vladimir Terziski. Terziski first appeared in or around thatyear, claiming to be the "President, American Academy of Dissident Sciences,10970 Ashton Ave. #310, Los Angeles, CA 90024, USA. When I wrote to theAcademy asking for further information, my letter was returned, theAcademy not being known at the address. He also claims that he is "aBulgarian born engineer and physicist, graduated Cum Laude from the Masterof Science program of Tokai University in Tokyo in 1980. Served as a solarenergy researcher, Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, before immigrating to theUS in 1984." [29]

Terziski seems, with a little help from Al Bielek of the completely loopy'Montauk Project', who was co-founder of the Academy, to have introduced acompletely new strand of 'Nazi UFO' material. It also appears in one of theseries of Montauk Project books. It is so outrageously unbelievable,implausible, and devoid of supporting evidence that it has proved to be verypopular among those who believe in an Illuminati conspiracy, the New WorldOrder, and the links between our rulers and Reptilian Aliens. The last trace

I've found of Terziski is at a speaker at a 'patriot' meeting in 1998, but hisinfluence lives on, creating an alternative, revised history in which the Naziswon in the end.

Terziski dcrit Renato Vesco comme le Wernher von Braun italien, lechercheur scientifique en charge du programme de Recherche etDveloppement de la Force Arienne et Spatiale italienne durant la guerre,ce qui en dit beaucoup sur le haut niveau de ses recherches. But then,research isn't really what Terziski is (or was) about. Brad Steiger le citeparlant de :

une "race d'extraterrestres enseignants" qui commena cooprer en secret avec certains scientifiques allemands la fin desannes 1920s dans des bases souterraines et commena introduire leurs concepts de progrs philosophique, culturel, ettechnologicque... (il) maintient que la recherche sur l'antigravitcommena dans les annes 1920s avec le premier appareilcirculaire hybride antigravit, le RFZ-1, construit par la socitsecrte Vril. En 1942-43 une srie de machines antigravitculmine avec la station spatiale gante Andromeda en forme de

cigare et de 350 pieds de long, qui fut construite dans les vieuxhangars Zeppelin prs de Berlin par le E4, la branch de rechercheet dveloppement des SS [Steiger, B and SH (1994) The RainbowConspiracy Windsor Publishing Corp New York p.62].

Il est galement cit (par Branton - voir ci-dessous) commentantl'utilisation continue d'ouvriers esclaves par les S. S. de pure race aryenne quivivent underground, conduisant des expriences gntiques prolongeantcelles de la 2nde guerre mondiale, dans la ligne du pacte allemands-nazis-Illuminati, qui fut tabli avec les races reptiles de longues annes avantque ne le fasse le gouvernement amricain "secret/conventionnel" hybride


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Branton, Omega Files.

Nor has Terziski's account of the trips to the Lune ouMars proved asunbelievable as we might hope. He says :

Les allemands se posrent sur la Lune probablement ds 1942,utilisant leurs plus grandes soucoupes ractionexoatmosphriques de type Miethe et Schriever. The Miethe rocket

craft was built in diameters of 15 and 50 meters, and the SchrieverWalter turbine powered craft was designed as an interplanetaryexploration vehicle. It had a diameter of 60 meters, had 10 storiesof crew compartments, and stood 45 meters high...

Ever since their first day of landing on the Moon, les allemandscommencrent boring et tunneling sous la surface, et la fin dela guerre il y avait une petite base de recherche nazie sur la Lune.The free energy tachyon drive craft of the Haunibu-1 and 2 typewere used after 1944 to haul people," materiel and the first robots

to the construction site on the Moon. When Russians and Americanssecretly landed jointly on the Moon in the early fifties with their ownsaucers, they spent their first night there as guests of the... Naziunderground base...

D'aprs les auteurs du film documentaire allemand undergroundde la Socit de Thule (presumably "UFO Secrets of the ThirdReich", que Terziski aurait produit lui-mme - KM), le seul appareilproduit de type Haunibu-3 - the 74 meter diameter naval warfaredreadnought - fut choisit pour la mission la plus courageuse de tout

le sicle - le voyage vers Mars. The craft was of saucer shape, hadthe bigger Andromeda tachyon drives, and was armed with fourtriple gun turrets of large naval caliber (three inverted upside downand attached to the underside of the craft, and the fourth on top ofthe crew compartments).

Une quipe suicide de volontaires allemands et japonais futchoisie, parce que tout le monde savait que cet expdition tait un seul sens et sans retour. La grande intensit des grands lectro-magntogravitiques et la pitre qualit des alliages mtalliquesalors utiliss pour les lments structurels du drive, was causing themetal to fatigue and get very brittle only after a few months ofwork of the drive. Le vol vers Mars partit d'Allemagne un moisavant la fin de la guerre - en Avril 1945. Le message radio with themixed news was received by the German underground spacecontrol center in Neu Schwabenland and by their research base onthe Moon Branton, Omega Files.


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En Mars 2000, les appareils Vril et Haunebu sont devenus une ralit dansde nombreux esprits, not least that of the author of William Bacon's HomePage/Nordic Sa

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